I recently had the incredible honor of being interviewed by Pat Flynn for his podcast, Smart Passive Income — and I’m so excited because our interview was just released! (You can listen to it right here.)

Why is this so exciting?

It’s been a long-time dream of mine to be interviewed on Smart Passive Income. If you’re not familiar with it, it’s a top-ranking and award-winning business podcast by Pat Flynn. He has interviewed some of the smartest minds and biggest names, including Tim Ferriss, Ramit Sethi, Amy Porterfield, Gary Vaynerchuk, and more.

So I was grateful for this opportunity.

But here’s the thing — this opportunity didn’t just magically fall out of the sky and land on my lap.

Pat was someone I’d wanted to connect with for years, but I didn’t want to force it. I was sure it’d happen when the time was right.

I was first introduced to Pat through a mutual friend who put us in touch because I had a client I wanted to recommend for the Smart Passive Income podcast. (The request wasn’t about getting something for myself — it was about adding value because I genuinely believed my client would be a perfect fit for his show.)

Then, last fall, Pat mentioned in his newsletter that he’d be in New York City for a speaking event. He said it was a short visit, but he may have time to meet up with some people in his community.

I knew that Pat was a very busy guy, so instead of trying to set up a one-on-one meeting (after all, he still didn’t really know me), I offered to host a dinner party for him, along with other thought leaders and industry experts.

Here’s a screenshot of the email I sent:

And I got a reply. We went back and forth a couple times about the details and the guest list, and voilà! A dinner party for Pat Flynn materialized.

The dinner party was a great way to add value to Pat, and next thing I knew he invited me to be a guest on his podcast.

And that’s the exact same interview that was just released today!

During this interview, we covered topics like…

  • How to get major media coverage — what editors are looking for, the perfect story ideas to pitch, and more.
  • Creative ways to “add value” — with lots of specific examples.
  • The do’s and don’ts when connecting with big influencers — and how to leave a great first impression.

Pat also put me in the hot seat by throwing a hypothetical product at me. I then shared how I would get that product out into the world and into the hands of potential buyers.

You can listen to the whole episode here.


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